How Many People Think Bush is an Idiot

[eddruming]

Just Taking A poll of Drummers Thoughts No offense

[jimmy jam420]

no i think if you read u.n. resolution 1441 you see that the security council did recognize that saddam is still in breach of previous resolutions and that his history is deplored by the international community, res 685 was a cease fire agreement april 1991,contigent on saddam compying within 15 days, saddam has fired on united states planes in no fly zones almost every year, per 685 this could reconstitute full military action but never has, because this country has been patient. terrorism made a mistake when it came to our borders when a republican conservative was in the whitehouse....again ... read the documents, i did

[chris perra]

i'm not a fan of going to war...

but, i think this whole thing should have been avoided 4 years ago when iraq kicked out u.n. inspectors, they should have gone in then,... they would of had a reason, and been justified at that point in time.

right now, there has been too much time in between. i personally think this whole thing is a warning to the extreemist muslims, that the u.s. isn't pissing around.

the u.s. considers themselves to be under attack, and can and will eliminate threats real or percieved.

i think that this government feels that there will be a struggle for a very long time between eastern and western philosphies, so they need to do something now to draw a line in the sand.

i don't necessarily agree with this, but i don't think hostilities and terrorist attacks are just going to go away if the u.s. pulls out all it's interests in the middle east and around the world.

they will still hate the u.s. and will still try to destroy what they percieve to be the american infedels.

just my 2 cents


chris perra

[skunkfunk]

I find him quite hard to understand. For example, to many of us in Europe, it's a mystery how one can spend all that money on military forces rather than on helping the poor. What kinda leader is that? Only in America can you get away with that and still be loved by everybody...

[benrand]

How would YOU know what is done int he US. Is defense more than 3% of GDP? Should everyone get free lowclass health care like in England?

This country also has many charities that private people donate to, instead of a cumbersome government entity, that help people out more than you would know.

And another thing, when Saddam builds palaces of gold while his people are living in a Stalinst nightmare, you have some nerve to bash the US. You owe your freedom to US.

Think of what the world would be like if we pulled back ALL our troops. It costs money, US money, not South Korea money, not Taiwan money, not German money, not Japanese money...US money.

[Dazzler]

Bush is without question a charlatan. He wasn't even elected as your president. The Fox network got tired of waiting (after he had rigged the votes in Florida)for recount after recount and simply announced him as president. What a joke.
He can hardly utter one single coherant sentence and struggles with basic English.... That said, the hypocrisy of the man is staggering: America and Britain have been supplying Saddam with arms for the last 12 years and now they have decided that he is a threat to world peace, funny that.
It isn't under dispute that Saddam is an evil dictator, responsible for genocide in his own country, but steaming in there and MURDERING thousands of innocent Iraqui's is NOT the answer. even if ONE innocent person is killed as a result of this war, that is reason enough NOT to enter into it.
Blair has done himself no favours by being Bush's puppet and going along with this farcical war and will as a result I'm sure, bring his own downfall.
Have a look at one of TONNES of anti-war-petitions that were signed on the net and take time to read the comments.

http://www.antonio.homechoice.co.uk/sigs.htm

The UN Charter forbids pre-emptive or offensive action against a sovereign state unless that state has itself been guilty of striking the first blow; thus any such resolution would be in violation of the UN's own Charter: This war is not only immoral, but ILLEGAL.

[jimmy jam420]

hey dazzler,read the resolutions. this is not a premptive strike it is a continuation of the 91 gulf war when iraq invade another country.. per resolution 685... a cease fire ... contigent on full compliance.....and yes the united states spends a very low percent of gnp compare that to the dictator of n korea and his government that spends 30 percent of gnp on military while his people starve... per all resolutions on iraq he is in non compliance and it is a legal war per 1441....educate yourself and read the documents .. God bless the united states, the protector of human rights and enemy of those that oppose freedom....besides ending slavery in america defeating communism and fighting fascism what else has american might and war done.

[skunkfunk]

Terry Jones (Monty Python) on the war:

I'm really excited by George Bush's latest reason for bombing Iraq: he's running out of patience. And so am I! For some time now I've been really pissed off with Mr Johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street. Well, him and Mr Patel, who runs the health food shop. They both give me queer looks, and I'm sure Mr Johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far I haven't been able to discover what. I've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden. That's how devious he is. As for Mr Patel, don't ask me how I know, I just know - from very good sources - that he is, in reality, a Mass Murderer. I have leafleted the street telling them that if we don't act first, he'll pick us off one by one. Some of my neighbours say, if I've got proof, why don't I go to the police? But that's simply ridiculous. The police will say that they need evidence of a crime with which to charge my neighbours. They'll come up with endless'red tape and quibbling about the rights and wrongs of a pre-emptive strike and all the while Mr Johnson will be finalising his plans to do terrible things to me, while Mr Patel will be secretly murdering people.

Since I'm the only one in the street with a decent range of automatic firearms, I reckon it's up to me to keep the peace. But until recently that's been a little difficult. Now, however, George W. Bush has made it clear that all I need to do is run out of patience, and then I can wade in and do whatever I want! And let's face it, Mr Bush's carefully thought-out policy towards Iraq is the only way to bring about international peace and security. The one certain way to stop Muslim fundamentalist suicide bombers targeting the US or the UK is to bomb a few Muslim countries that have never threatened us. That's why I want to blow up Mr Johnson's garage and kill his wife and children. Strike first! That'll teach him a lesson. Then he'll leave us in peace and stop peering at me in that totally unacceptable way. Mr Bush makes it clear that all he needs to know before bombing Iraq is that Saddam is a really nasty man and that he has weapons of mass destruction - even if no one can find them. I'm certain I've just as much justification for killing Mr Johnson's wife and children as Mr Bush has for bombing Iraq.

Mr Bush's long-term aim is to make the world a safer place by eliminating 'rogue states' and 'terrorism'. It's such a clever long-term aim because how can you ever know when you've achieved it? How will Mr Bush know when he's wiped out all terrorists? When every single terrorist is dead? But then a terrorist is only a terrorist once he's committed an act of terror. What about would-be terrorists? These are the ones you really want to eliminate, since most of the known terrorists, being suicide bombers, have already eliminated themselves. Perhaps Mr Bush needs to wipe out everyone who could possibly be a future terrorist? Maybe he can't be sure he's achieved his objective until every Muslim fundamentalist is dead? But then some moderate Muslims might convert to fundamentalism. Maybe the only really safe thing to do would be for Mr Bush to eliminate all Muslims?

It's the same in my street. Mr Johnson and Mr Patel are just the tip of the iceberg. There are dozens of other people in the street who I don't like and who - quite frankly - look at me in odd ways. No one will be really safe until I've wiped them all out. My wife says I might be going too far but I tell her I'm simply using the same logic as the President of the United States. That shuts her up. Like Mr Bush, I've run out of patience, and if that's a good enough reason for the President, it's good enough for me. I'm going to give the whole street two weeks - no, 10 days - to come out in the open and hand over all aliens and interplanetary hijackers, galactic outlaws and interstellar terrorist masterminds, and if they don't hand them over nicely and say 'Thank you', I'm going to bomb the entire street to kingdom come. It's just as sane as what George W. Bush is proposing - and, in contrast to what he's intending, my policy will destroy only one street.<

[McKenzie]

I could care less about the argument over whether people like or dislike Bush and I am not saying that is what you guys are doing here but to alot of people that is all it is about. They hated Bush already heck why not tear him apart.

I would say this. who has spent a few months living with people who are oppressed by a dictator? Or people who cannot worship God freely or those who cannot voice an opinion freely without worrying about going to jail or even worse torture,I have!My wife and I spent 10 years traveling around the world helping people with a mercy ministry team bringing physical relief(food,clothing,shelter) spiritual (hope and compassion) and you know they have got it horribly hard,more than anyone knows. We are so blessed here in this country and you know that whether you are religious or not!

The Iraquis and Kurds(in the millions ) along with the kuwaiti's have suffered greatly because of Husseins cruelty and Hate and that is not counting many others he has oppressed and attacked. this guy is another Pol-Pot and a Hitler. He should be gone whether you like Bush or not. The world community blew it along time ago. France and Russia and China it is about $$$$. Plain and simple they got billions wrapped up in deals with Hussein knowing what he does to those all around him. Talk about seeing the truth and still not caring and benefitting from the suffering. Those 3 countries have a known Pact to split the oil 3 ways if they could get other countries off Husseins back that was the deal and you wonder why they do not want him to go! they never had any intention not only of removing him but not even disarming him.

You do not hear the millions of Iraquis in exile or Kurds displaced or families who have had loved ones butchered protesting the war, WHY! they are the ones who have suffered they want him gone and rightly so again whether you like bush or not. I am ashamed to see people protesting, not because they do not have a right but because they are out of touch with the real victims. They live in Disneyland and have it Soooooooo! easy and they think they are the moral voice,bullcrap let them go suffer for awhile then they can talk. They live in fancy apartments eat there organic food smoke a bowl and sit around being the so called moral voice pathetic!

We took Milosevic out with Military force and no U.N. backing and the guy was Mr. Rogers compared to Hussein. Husseins atrocities against humanity are 100 times worse. Where were the protesters then and big mouth actors who are so in touch along with the others who relate so well. They were not because it was not Bush. Milosevic was a mosquito when it came to his threat to anyone. He was not, he was irrelevent to the US and even those around him other than those he locally fought with but we still went in anyways and I am not saying it was right or wrong. Clinton was pressured to the point where he said heck with it I am doing this with or without the U.N.

And as far as having authority. We have got the right to take Hussein out going back many resolutions and years. And everyone knows it, they just do not like it. Know one will take his threat to humanity seriously until he kills on the large scale again. I guess it will take another 9-11 to wake people up again. This guy supports every major terrorist Org in the world. And they want what he has got and he will give it to them eventually but we will just wait for him to kill more.Anyone one remember the world trade center bombing and the U.S. cole bombing and the Kenyan embassy bombing and the club bombing recently where hundreds of Aussies died.
This crap has been going on along time.

Terry Jones needs to get his but kicked by Hussein, maybe a litttle torture or anthrax up the nose. Let the big mouth suffer a little then we will see how funny he is afterwards. Again so easy for the well off to shoot their big mouths off!

And to those who say America does not help the needy. Bullcrap again I have worked with many relief Org's. And we do more and give more by far then anyone else.

America I hate to say is in a No-win situation. Everyone when their is a major problem wants us to bail them out and we should help to a degree. But then the same ones who cry we should help then cry that we should stay out of others business. That is what happens when you are the biggest and most prosperous and most powerful.
Everyone wants to dictate to America what and how we should help. Sometimes some of these countries need to learn hard lessons and really see if they want to change to a better way.
The reality is some do not.

The reality is Hussein should be gone for many reasons. Genocide, starting wars, weapons of mass destruction, supporting terrorism on a large scale. Can we get our eyes off of Bush and Politics and deal with this thug(Hussein) I hope so. I know some do not like bush and that is your right it does not bother me, but start caring about the ones who really suffer. that is the real issue to those who care and want to help the needy.
Regards Digital

[jonthibault]

Iraq has already lied three times (about the warheads capable of delivering chemical weapons, the banned missiles discovered about a month ago, and the recently discovered drone planes). Rememeber they denied having any of this stuff? If you trust those lying scum, you're extraordinarily naive. I'm not willing to give any middle eastern country the benefit of the doubt anymore, and I'm 100% in favor of bombing them unless they can act like a civilized nation and contribute something to the world other than oppression and terrorism. George Bush may stumble over his words occassionally (although his State of the Union was the best I've ever heard), but Rumsfeld is a genius.